To begin; this stamp is NOT to be taken LITERALLY! It’s a figurative statement, I know people don’t literally look at animals and confuse them like Disney Animals.
We all know that, when it comes to Disney, there are lots of animals that are personified or morphed into anthropomorphic beings that act a lot like humans and know how to cook, or build houses, or sow, etc, etc. There is nothing wrong with this, of course. Disney often makes cartoon-related or fictional movies and TV shows, and in the world of fiction there is nothing wrong in making an animal have human-traits or have thoughts much like that of a human’s. However, I’ve noticed that with some people (often those on the extreme side of animal activists, or at least those who claim to be) they tend to treat animals or give animals in reality human-like thoughts.
What I mean by this is that some people treat animals a little more like people, and often will then attempt to defend certain actions or look are certain tricks, abilities, etc, etc and claim them to be human-based. A good example of this could be wolves. We all know that wolves are a type of canine, wild, found in numerous places in the world, and function with a pack mentality. However, some people, when thinking about the idea of “pack mentality” with wolves, tend to assume or talk about them as if they were a “loving family”. This is what I mean; they are now humanizing or “disneyfying” the animal because of a trait they feel is human-related.
Yes wolves do live in a pack and work together, but they don’t do this because they love each other or want to “help” each other like a family for reasons other then survival. This is actually an innate ability. They work as a pack because alone, wolves aren’t entirely strong. Without a pack, a single wolf would have a challenging time surviving, and thus it is only beneficial they work with more then one. They do not do this because they love each other, it’s all for survival and survival alone (though there have been wolves that hunt alone, but then we get into more complicated areas and special incidents).
This often happens with lots of animals; sometimes even with the reverse as well. Some people may look at a crocodile and see it as a vicious, man-eating creature that’s dangerous, nasty, and cruel because in some movies they’re made out to be the villain. But people tend to ignore, or don’t even realize that some species of crocodiles or perhaps all, have been known to watch over, guard and lead infant crocodiles that are not even their own child from one source of water to another. Now this does not mean that the crocodile becomes officially harmless, it’s still dangerous to go near and should not be kept as a pet or treated otherwise because of this trait. But it shows that people who may treat an animal a certain way due to giving it human-based characteristics are often wrong and either make out the animal to be “too good” (e.g. making a deer or wolf sound perfectly harmless and sweet) or “too evil” (e.g. crocodiles and sharks depicted as cruel monsters).
Another form of Disneyfying an animal is when some people may also not only give the animal human characteristics, but also give them the ability to think or feel emotions of the same magnitude as a human. Yes animals do feel some hints of emotions that is true. But animals do not have the same wiring in our brains; to begin they have no sense of rational thought or morals; including not all animals expresses the same emotions. Numerous insects and arachnids for example likely do not know the concept of love or love for their child, because with some insects and arachnids they die after laying their eggs, and may even kill their mate after sexual intercourse. Plus not all animals have ONE mate; many will have numerous mates in their life time. Some species of birds, like cuckoos, also do not likely know the concept of love for their child as they lay their eggs in the nest of other birds for those birds to raise the egg.
So yes, animals do feel emotions, but not the wide variety we feel, nor at the same magnitude. If this was the case, every animal would have only one mate to love, express problems in killing other animals, and express many emotions such as jealousy.
All I am trying to say in the end is that animals are not like humans. They may show traits or emotions similar to our own, but they likely are not the same as a human’s. What makes us human is the fact that we have a special, advanced brain that allows us to think, create and feel a variety of emotions that other animals could not think or feel.
So please, when you see an animal acting a certain way or doing something in a certain manner, don’t instantly “Disneyfy” the animal and give it a human trait. I suggest you look into the animal’s behaviors and traits, for you may learn it is a survival technique or serves a purpose for the animal’s survival, mating, dominance over others, etc, etc.
(If anyone wishes to contribute to this in anyway feel free to do so!)
Put a human in the wild. They won't act like a "human" then. Humans are animals too (even though some people try and deny it). We're all animals and we're all equal. And we're more alike than you think.
Can't tell how much I agree with this stamp, I have an aunt that also Disneyfys aka humanizes her pet chihuahua; buying it dresses, taking it to massage parlors and getting it's nails done. She treats that dog better than her own grown daughter, just because that dog got lost for a month, she feels it's suffering from PTSD, she says she knows this because she Googled it . Funny because my cat Jarvis was abused as a kitten by almost drowning by it's previous owner for just being a black cat, but you'd never think he went through anything if you saw him out there with me in the mountains. Happiest creature in the world and very affectionate. Animals don't have the same perceptions of memory like we do, they live mostly in the present. He knows he's cared for and loved and that's really all it could ask for. I honestly think this whole humanized animal thing has become a cultural mental illness, and the PETA hasn't helped matters at all. It's fine and dandy to respect animals, treat them well and love them, but let's not kid ourselves and say they're human beings with fur.
Why haven't I found this stamp sooner? This needs to be spread more. This book that I'm currently reading and in love with right now, The Culture Clash, addresses the "Disney issue" right off the bat in regards to dog behavior and training. By giving animals the ability of human thought and a moral conscience you are only setting them up for failure, and this has led to so many pet owners thinking their pets were failures or purposefully doing things wrong just to spite them. More unneeded abuse or scolding for that poor pet when they really needed love and to be taught the "right" thing to do! As a furry I love anthropomorphic animals as much as the next person, but people get into thinking animals are like us too much and don't realize that REAL animals simply aren't the same. They aren't human-like, except where basic behaviors are concerned. Though I do think animals express more than just a hint of emotions (I've watched ducks and geese on the lake form bonds that last 'till one of them dies with complete loyalty and shows of affection that literally are just that...like a mallard male doing a certain thing with his wings. It may look like preening, but it actually serves no preening function, and they only do it in the presence of their mate. My dog was absolutely depressed when his only canine companion died -and of all horrible timing, we left for a 10 day vacation the next day that was planned months in advance...oiye!-, and then was very overjoyed when we returned and he realized he wasn't abandoned anymore...emotional responses and rewards in our brains are a good way to ensure species survival by using techniques that help our species, after all...or conversely feeling bad when we do something that would hinder our survival, like abandoning or otherwise not caring for a pack mate or whatever).
I absolutely agree that, when it comes to basic logic and reasoning, as well as comprehension, animals don't hold a candle to human beings. XD Still, I think you're shortchanging some of them a bit in the emotional department. Granted, like you said, an animal isn't going to be broken up after killing another animal, but in terms of emotions like love, who's to say they don't, in their own way, feel as deeply and powerfully as we do? Also, I know that 'playing' is sometimes just training for survival, but I find it a little hard to believe that they don't occasionally do it just for the fun of it. And in terms of things like wolf packs (or any other social animals, for that matter): it's true that survival instinct is a key factor in keeping them together, but I don't think it's entirely out of the realm of possibility that there's real, genuine affection helping to keep them together, as well. Just my two cents on the whole situation. I just don't think that animals' minds have to be as unknowable and incomprehensible as we make them out to be, that's all.
But the point about the wolves can also be made for human society as a whole just on a larger scale. A lone human (I mean truly alone as in entirely self-sufficient with 0 goods from other humans not just nerd in basement) isn't going to do so well either.
To be able to glorify it in the first place brings humanity a step up in terms of thinking. Humans are indeed, 'higher up' than pretty much all animals out there in terms of the ability to problem solve, learn, and other mental capabilities whether we like it or not. Otherwise though they are just another animal with a specific specialization.
Since I don't think we were made in the 'image of god' or whatever, we're just a bit more evolved animals. Not better. A bird is no better than a rat, and no worse than a wolf.
We have tried, and nearly succeeded in conquering the world. Nature still throws our arrogance in our face through natural disasters and disease. In terms of intelligence, sure, we are a bit more powerful with that. Put us in a pit with no tools, against an angry lion, we'd be ripped apart in minutes.
It is our intelligence that makes us fearsome, but we are not 'higher up' than animals who specialize in speed or strength, rather than brain power.
I think animals are a lot like people, but what sets us apart is awareness. I have no doubt wolves have some equivalent of 'love' in that there is a class of entities they will treat differently, such as their pups which they will look after. Humans have this too, things like the mothering instinct. But a wolf cannot say or even think that it loves something, it cannot know whay it does certain things, it lacks that capacity. Likewise, crocodiles get hungry and eat, like we do, but they do not take a joy in killing something, or stalk something with some sort of malicious intent, they are just doing what comes naturally. This is why if you went up to a sheep and ripped its throat out you're terrible, if you're a wolf that's nature, humans can have *reasons* for doing things, animals seldom do.
I draw like that for the athropamorphic fun of it. Like my Okapi OC, but I KNOW okapis are not like how I personify them. I still keep the anotomy, though, as Disney does. And I still don't sparkle-lize them. I still draw them realistic, too. Before I even began cartoonifying okapis, I drew them several times as realistic sketches until I could get a realistic sketch in under 10 minutes. THEN I began to exagerate the ears, horns, tounges*, and comical appearence. Support this stamp. You must draw the animal and know it before sparkling/cartooning it.
*Did you know Okapis can lick inside their own ears? THEY HAZ AWESUM TOUNGES.
That's very wise to say, actually. It's smart to know the animal you're making into a cartoon. Awesome idea. And indeed, that is one hell of a tongue! I'd love to actually see an Okapis like the inside of its ear, just to see how the tongue works!
At first I thought that this was bashing the disneyish drawing style, how silly of me~ xD
Yea, I agree with this now. If someone is going to obsess over an animal, they should at the very least do their research. [You know, besides the simple kids national geographic fun facts] I'll post this on my page with pride when I get my sub
animals have emotions , i ponder on that thought , ive always thought instead of being charged with the burden of having some emotions they had survival instincts , im pretty sure that if a wolf had to choose between thier own living life and another wolfs life of unknowing , easy pick for them , well thats just my opinion and yes dont "disneyfy" them
Hehe, I couldn't agree more. While I think it's fun to give animals anthropomorphic traits, it's not something I take seriously (except for my pets, I do have a habit of treating them more like people <XD). I think every animal is driven more by instinct than emotion or morality. It's rather irritating that some people are too mushy/obsessed to think otherwise :/
Hay, I think it may be natural for us who care about our pets to treat them a little more then just animals. Which is fine; as long as of course you do acknowledge that they are an animal and do not understand the same things humans do (and I know you do know that already... and your icon is awesome). And of course don't take it too far.
And yeah, it's awesome to make anthropomorphic animals, I've done that with a jellyfish, a marlin and a mutated anglerfish (for male anglerfish are actually very small and don't look anything like female anglerfish X3)
Haha, tell me about it. XD; I mean, yeah; for stories and stuff, it's fun to give animals human characteristics (Silverwing would have been nothing otherwise), but in all seriousness, it's best to consider the facts. (Haha, thanks XD)
Oh? That sounds very interesting indeed. X3 Do you have pictures of those in your gallery? I'd be interested in seeing your anthro fish XD
I agree. Plus practically all animals have no emotional connection to their past expiriences. That means "poor wolf pup" doesn't think about it's mom who was hunted a year ago and get sad. Dogs don't make emotions the same ways as the human brain, even. (Though, as a sidenote, cats have the same emotional part of the brain as humans, but they are NOT humans...)
Animals should not be treated as people. Animals are animals. They don't act on thought like us, they act on pure instinct. They would kill their parents and siblings just like they were killing any other animal if their hungry. I guess animal-extreme-fans forgot to do their research.
I know. This is also why it annoys me when people constantly act as if animals have it better. I love the ability to think about things no animal could comprehend, or remember things in my past that were fun or memorable.
Ah, isn't Pluto a dog (at least a cartoon dog)? I mean, whenever I watched Mickey Mouse Pluto lived in a doghouse, was often called after with terms like "Come here boy" and lots of people always said "Why is it that Goofy can talk and walk, but Pluto can't?"
I know! It's also funny how people watch certain animals "play" when really they're training. I mean, when you see two cats start to roll around and "play fight" the two are actaully training. Or with wolves that do that, it's not playing around but training or even one wolf attempting to take dominance over the other.
"Plus not all animals have ONE mate; many will have numerous mates in their life time."
Do you know how many times I've tried to explain this to a girl I know who flipped out on me for making my horse OC have numerous mares in his herd instead of just sticking to one mare? Thanks to Dreamworks, she thinks that horses are monogamist.
It's actually funny because if I am correct Sea Horses, an animal these kind of people rarely think about, are one of the FEW animals out there that really will have one mate. It's not too common for many animals to have a single mate, and not a very favorable thing either, seeing as unlike people they don't have medicine and many must worry about predators, finding food, etc, etc. So it usually is beneficial for some animals to have more mates and produce more offspring.
Plus I personally find your character unique for having more then one mate.
DogoteFeatured By OwnerApr 4, 2011Hobbyist General Artist
fox squirrels are another rare monogomous mammal -so i'm told! that was supposedly one of the main reasons why they were protected... supposedly they mate for life and if someone shoots the mate they wont seek another..... but i cant find any actual facts for this online. Horses however.... lol well there's a reason why they call it a HAREM! LOL
I know. I also heard that if the mate dies, they never get a new one. I kind of wonder why they do this; it's an interesting idea to hear an animal literally staying with one mate for life and then never finding a new one when it dies.